orionsnow 发表于 2013-11-5 10:13

网上一个什么什么的研究调查说,论文是跨学科的博士的毕业工资低


社会学调查报告,还是要分析辩证的看的。

Interdisciplinary Penalty
October 31, 2013
By
Scott Jaschik

Everyone, it seems, loves the idea of scholars interdisciplinary work. But does academe reward those -- particular young scholars -- who actually do it?

A new study, based on data from all people who earned Ph.D.s in 2010, suggests the opposite. In the year after earning their doctorates, those in the cohort who did interdisciplinary dissertations earned, on average, $1,700 less than those who completed dissertations in a single field. The study was conducted by Kevin M. Kniffin and Andrew S. Hanks, two postdoctoral fellows at Cornell University, and has been released by the Cornell Higher Education Research Institute.

Kniffin and Hanks used data from the Survey of Earned Doctorates, and focused on the more than 26,000 people who earned doctorates that year who are U.S. citizens. The income of new Ph.D.s, of course, varies by such factors as discipline, whether postdoctoral employment is within academe or outside it, and whether the first job after the Ph.D. is a postdoctoral fellowship. Kniffin and Hanks came up with their $1,700 gap by controlling for discipline, age, gender and ethnicity. They reasoned that because some disciplines are more likely than others to produce new doctorates who seek employment outside academe, they could address various differences in post-graduation patterns of various new doctorate holders.

The Survey of Earned Doctorates specifically asks if new Ph.D.s did a multidisciplinary dissertation, so that information was readily available for the study.

In non-academic life, Kniffin and Hanks write, there is evidence that employers reward people who can draw on varied experiences and areas of expertise. For for those who prepare for employment (in academe or in some cases out of academe) with a Ph.D., that does not appear to be the case. "The current value system in academia clearly imposes a cost on boundary spanning," they write.

Via email, Kniffin said that interdisciplinary scholars may face a range of challenges in getting the best job -- especially at the beginning of their careers. "For a department that's hiring someone whose job will be to teach Intro courses, then certainly it seems plausible that an interdisciplinary dissertation could be viewed as a liability or, at least, a distraction when people are reviewing applications for a new hire," he said.

He noted that for all the rhetoric about interdisciplinary work in academe, it may be that only senior scholars don't pay a penalty.

"Regarding career stage among academics, there's evidence that full professors -- with tenure and, perhaps almost as importantly, no need for another round of promotion applications -- tend to disproportionately pursue interdisciplinary research," Kniffin said. "Likewise, graduate students -- who might or might not have a clear sense or interest in the postgraduate labor market and who otherwise have not yet invested as much time into their academic careers -- also tend to disproportionately pursue interdisciplinary research. In contrast, there's previous work showing that assistant professors -- in the face of the up-or-out fate of tenure votes -- tend to avoid cross-disciplinary work."

Asked if the paper should discourage graduate students from pursuing interdisciplinary work, Kniffin said that was not the case. He said that there were many "good and important reasons" to do interdisciplinary work. Further, he said that the trend of "cluster hiring" at colleges and universities -- in which the emphasis is on a broad issue or problem, not a discipline -- may favor the candidacies of interdisciplinary scholars. But he said that graduate students need to understand the costs they may face for such choices.

"Until and unless that kind of pattern becomes the norm, though, graduate students should understand, at least, that there are 'extra challenges' that are entailed by conducting interdisciplinary work just as people in positions of hiring and promotion (e.g., at the department level) should be more cognizant of biases that they might hold in relation to candidates with interdisciplinary backgrounds," he said.

What of the future? In their paper, Kniffin and Hanks write that they can't be sure what to expect, but that -- from a logical perspective -- things could get better if academe evolves in rational ways (although they don't claim that rationality rules in such matters).

"it is logical to expect that if academia were to become more institutionally organized to tackle contemporary problems in the way that competitive firms are expected to behave rather than remain tied to historical disciplinary boundaries, then one would expect that boundary spanners would obtain better near-term outcomes," they write.

Read more: http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2013/10/31/study-finds-phds-who-write-interdisciplinary-dissertations-earn-less#ixzz2jkyodthK
Inside Higher Ed

太爱面子 发表于 2013-11-5 10:53

完了,这么说我的工资是最低的,我跨了数学物理和计算机

庄十三爷 发表于 2013-11-5 11:49

你算个毛啊,怪叔叔穿越了数学物理化学生物计算机,天文地理历史人文哲学。

别在这里班门弄斧了

太爱面子 发表于 2013-11-5 12:10

庄十三爷 发表于 2013-11-5 10:49
你算个毛啊,怪叔叔穿越了数学物理化学生物计算机,天文地理历史人文哲学。

别在这里班门弄斧了

嘿嘿,对呀,穿越得太多了,所以不知道什么叫“函数”对不对,嘿嘿嘿嘿

庄十三爷 发表于 2013-11-5 12:13

涵叔他当然知道了,不就是您这种德高望重,风流倜傥的大才子么?

Piggy-poo 发表于 2013-11-6 23:05

我认识的一美国教授听说了我的学科之后,说,你这个情况根本就是unhirable....

太爱面子 发表于 2013-11-6 23:11

Piggy-poo 发表于 2013-11-6 22:05
我认识的一美国教授听说了我的学科之后,说,你这个情况根本就是unhirable....

没事,我的目标是拿诺贝尔奖。我导师对我说,一般来说诺贝尔奖会颁给对其他学科产生深远影响的理论。所以他建议我作一个一个数学模型,他有这方面的学术资源,如学术科研资料;人脉资源,如索尔维研究院的主席是他的好朋友。如果成功了,能解释物理上的确定性和非确定性,还有生物进化的动力,和社会演化的机制。
就是不知道如果真的获奖了,应该算物理奖还是生物奖。这个问题留给评委们去想吧。

太爱面子 发表于 2013-11-6 23:25

我导师可能是自己没获奖,所以心里耿耿于怀,经常没事就跟我讨论这个,嘿嘿,估计是对我报以很大希望。压力很大的哟,唉

Piggy-poo 发表于 2013-11-7 00:00

太爱面子 发表于 2013-11-6 22:11
没事,我的目标是拿诺贝尔奖。我导师对我说,一般来说诺贝尔奖会颁给对其他学科产生深远影响的理论。所以 ...

同学志向太远大了。。。

给我们版的筒子们先签个名吧。。。等你以后出名了咱还可以拿出来炫耀不是?

太爱面子 发表于 2013-11-7 00:11

我为人一向低调,不太喜欢到处宣扬自己,嘿嘿
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