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[科技新闻] 《纽约时报》19日报道,Google黑客攻击来自上海交通大学和山东蓝翔高等技工学校

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发表于 2010-2-21 18:01 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式

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美国《纽约时报》19日报道说,追踪到黑客攻击是来自上海交通大学和山东蓝翔高等技工学校内的电脑。


  报道称,针对谷歌的黑客攻击可能早于2009年4月就已开始,较之前谷歌披露得更早。谷歌于今年1月12日披露,被黑客入侵盗取电脑资料,黑客来自中国。保安专家也表示,有超过30家公司遭黑客入侵。


  上述两所学校发言人均表示,没有听说美国调查人员将谷歌受到的攻击跟踪到了他们的学校。上海交通大学党委宣传部长刘玉祥说,如果这是真的,将会提醒院系注意,并进行调查。蓝翔计算机系负责人也表示,他的学生不可能袭击谷歌或其他美国公司,因为他们仅仅是高中生,水平也不高。而且学校也采取了严格的管理措施,外人无法轻易进入学校。


  报道还称,上海交通大学的电脑学系在中国表现出色,交大多名学生数周前参加由IBM举办的国际电脑程序设计比赛,美国斯坦福大学及多家著名学府的参赛者也不是对手。

原文如下:
SAN FRANCISCO - A series of online attacks on g00gle and dozens of other American corporations have been traced to computers at two educational institutions in China, including one with close ties to the Chinese military, say people involved in the investigation.
  
  They also said the attacks, aimed at stealing trade secrets and computer codes and capturing e-mail of Chinese human rights activists, may have begun as early as April, months earlier than previously believed. g00gle announced on Jan. 12 that it and other companies had been subjected to sophisticated attacks that probably came from China.
  
  Computer security experts, including investigators from the National Security Agency, have been working since then to pinpoint the source of the attacks. Until recently, the trail had led only to servers in Taiwan.
If supported by further investigation, the findings raise as many questions as they answer, including the possibility that some of the attacks came from China but not necessarily from the Chinese *****, or even from Chinese sources.
  
  Tracing the attacks further back, to an elite Chinese university and a vocational school, is a breakthrough in a difficult task. Evidence acquired by a United States military contractor that faced the same attacks as g00gle has even led investigators to suspect a link to a specific computer science class, taught by a Ukrainian professor at the vocational school.
  
  The revelations were shared by the contractor at a meeting of computer security specialists.
  
  The Chinese schools involved are Shanghai Jiaotong University and the Lanxiang Vocational School, according to several people with knowledge of the investigation who asked for anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the inquiry.
  
  Jiaotong has one of China’s top computer science programs. Just a few weeks ago its students won an international computer programming competition organized by I.B.M. — the “Battle of the Brains” — beating out Stanford and other top-flight universities.
  
  Lanxiang, in east China’s Shandong Province, is a huge vocational school that was established with military support and trains some computer scientists for the military. The school’s computer network is operated by a company with close ties to Baidu, the dominant search engine in China and a competitor of g00gle.
Within the computer security industry and the Obama administration, analysts differ over how to interpret the finding that the intrusions appear to come from schools instead of Chinese military installations or ***** agencies. Some analysts have privately circulated a document asserting that the vocational school is being used as camouflage for ***** operations. But other computer industry executives and former ***** officials said it was possible that the schools were cover for a “false flag” intelligence operation being run by a third country. Some have also speculated that the hacking could be a giant example of criminal industrial espionage, aimed at stealing intellectual property from American technology firms.
  
  Independent researchers who monitor Chinese information warfare caution that the Chinese have adopted a highly distributed approach to online espionage, making it almost impossible to prove where an attack originated.
  
  “We have to understand that they have a different model for computer network exploit operations,” said James C. Mulvenon, a Chinese military specialist and a director at the Center for Intelligence Research and Analysis in Washington. Rather than tightly compartmentalizing online espionage within agencies as the United States does, he said, the Chinese ***** often involves volunteer “patriotic hackers” to support its policies.
Spokesmen for the Chinese schools said they had not heard that American investigators had traced the g00gle attacks to their campuses.
  
  If it is true, “We’ll alert relative departments and start our own investigation,” said Liu Yuxiang, head of the propaganda department of the ***** committee at Jiaotong University in Shanghai.
  
  But when asked about the possibility, a leading professor in Jiaotong’s School of Information Security Engineering said in a telephone interview: “I’m not surprised. Actually students hacking into foreign Web sites is quite normal.” The professor, who teaches Web security, asked not to be named for fear of reprisal.
“I believe there’s two kinds of situations,” the professor continued. “One is it’s a completely individual act of wrongdoing, done by one or two geek students in the school who are just keen on experimenting with their hacking skills learned from the school, since the sources in the school and network are so limited. Or it could be that one of the university’s I.P. addresses was hijacked by others, which frequently happens.”
  
  At Lanxiang Vocational, officials said they had not heard about any possible link to the school and declined to say if a Ukrainian professor taught computer science there.
‘I think it’s impossible for our students’
  A man named Mr. Shao, who said he was dean of the computer science department at Lanxiang but refused to give his first name, said, “I think it’s impossible for our students to hack g00gle or other U.S. companies because they are just high school graduates and not at an advanced level. Also, because our school adopts close management, outsiders cannot easily come into our school.”
  
  Mr. Shao acknowledged that every year four or five students from his computer science department were recruited into the military.
  
  g00gle’s decision to step forward and challenge China over the intrusions has created a highly sensitive issue for the United States *****. Shortly after the company went public with its accusations, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton challenged the Chinese in a speech on Internet censors, suggesting that the country’s efforts to control open access to the Internet were in effect an information-age Berlin Wall.
  
  A report on Chinese online warfare prepared for the U.S.-China Economic Security Review Commission in October 2009 by Northrup Grumman identified six regions in China with military efforts to engage in such attacks. Jinan, site of the vocational school, was one of the regions.
  
  Executives at g00gle have said little about the intrusions and would not comment for this article. But the company has contacted computer security specialists to confirm what has been reported by other targeted companies: access to the companies’ servers was gained by exploiting a previously unknown flaw in Microsoft’s Internet Explorer Web browser.
  
  Forensic analysis is yielding new details of how the intruders took advantage of the flaw to gain access to internal corporate servers. They did this by using a clever technique — called man-in-the-mailbox — to exploit the natural trust shared by people who work together in organizations
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-2-21 18:08 | 显示全部楼层
太扯了,外国人根本不明白专科学校在国内和国外是完全不同的概念

山东蓝翔看来是有真才实学啊
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蓝翔解密 大家小声点
蓝翔近日由于黑掉了谷歌,又受到美国国家安全局的关注,所做事件在纽约时报曝光。顿时声名雀鹤。其实我一点都不感到意外。做为蓝翔的一名工作人员,知道很多东西,基于国家安全保密原则我不能透露,只说我知道的几点。
  1、蓝翔没有你们看广告以为那么简单。
  2、蓝翔确实有军方背景,一直和清华、哈工大、国防科大、上交大、蓝翔五个学校承担了一个重大的国防科研项目,科研方向保密。这个项目不是随便可以参与的,清华是实力、哈工大是国防科工委的老大,国防科大是军校老大,所以才能直接进入,蓝翔是秘密基地,上交大本来没份的,但因为校友的关系(就不用具体问谁了吧)加入了进来。我们主要负责电子干扰,网络超限战科研部分。这个不方面说得太细。北大、西电、西工大,还有北京理工曾经申请加入进来,被拒绝。
  3、蓝翔有八个专业:数控、其实是高达控制专业。厨师、其实是化学武器制造与防御。汽修、其实是高达与重型战争机械制造。挖掘机、其实是异型高达进阶。美容发,其实是伪装与战略忽悠。电焊,其实是激光武器与高能粒子武器设计。无线电,磁电声光波探测与预警系统。计算机,不做解释。
  4、计算机很强,但其实不是蓝翔的王牌专业,蓝翔的四大王牌是数控、汽修、挖掘、电焊,计算机排五到七位,但在国内高校里已经无敌了,顺便说一个银河计算机其实是我们造的,为了保密,我们送给了国防科大。
  5、据我所知,中国最好的坦克就是汽修专业秘密的研制的,但出于国家安全考虑,科研成果也算在了其它高等院校头上。电焊主要干的是卫星和火箭焊接,在这方面的水平,略逊于哈工大。为此,上面的人发了很多脾气,电焊系的老师压力很大,去年就有两个跳槽了,一个去了英国的帝国理工做教授,一个去了台湾,军方面曾经派人截杀,一个上将勃然大怒说,去台湾的那个人相当于五个师,但受到美国情报局干扰,未果。
  5、国家考虑过让蓝翔加入985行列,但中央军委不同意,国之利器,不可轻易示人。蓝翔也有很多老师不同意,对于蓝翔这样私密以及水准的学校,成为985,跟湖南大学、重庆大学、华南理工这样的鱼腩学校摆在一起是一种赤裸裸的羞辱。
  6、这次黑客门倒是个意外,是源于计算机的一个老师和学生(这个学生是西北工业大学的研究生,来这进修了两年,名叫邢**,选派来的)因情感问题吵架,这两人爱上了同一个女生。老师威胁学生不让他考试及格,学生求情,老师鄙视他道你要是能黑掉谷歌,我就让你及格。结果.....
  7、中国有很多东西是不能往外说的,尤其是牵涉到国家安全。
  8、言尽于此,再多说就要被喝茶了。
  9、另外我曾经在校长室遇见过一个人,讲阿拉伯语,疑似本 拉登
  10、我们的外部口号是:不想当黑客的厨师,不是好司机。
   内部口号是:我运即国运,国之安危系于蓝翔一校。
  11、这两天看到南有上交,北有蓝翔的说法,我们很多同事都感到深深的羞辱,这两个学校从来就不是一个档次,我们的眼光,只偶尔瞟一瞟剑桥、牛津、哈佛、MIT。不知道还有其它大学。当有人说道南有上交,北有蓝翔时,我们一个教导主任,眼泪都流了出来,苦涩地道:算了,算了,谁叫我们一直潜伏成一个技校呢......南慕容,北乔峰,南上交,北蓝翔,也就这差距了嘛!

原帖地址 http://www.douban.com/group/topic/9979238/
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发表于 2010-2-22 03:36 | 显示全部楼层
蓝翔技校是在解放军的协助下创设的,该校的电脑网路由一家与“百度”有关的公司负责管理, 也为解放军培 ...
siegfried1 发表于 2010-2-21 18:53


mark一下,围观坛宠,你太无敌了。。。
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发表于 2010-2-22 11:57 | 显示全部楼层
上交肯定很爽,下次把FBI的网页也黑了,谁叫你丫黑交大咧
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