zt 申请EG长居的法律条文 $20 Forscher (§ 20 AufenthG)

orionsnow

一片云还在么？$怒吼$

hefei01

原帖由 UCer 于 2009-1-27 10:52 发表
1.首先是要有无限期合同，合同上明确写1两年到期，人家凭啥给你长居啊，这点博后就排除。
2.杰出人才对于德国政府定义是年收入85k+, 现在降了点，也是65k+, 超过这个收入的，一次性给长居，不含糊。

德国这杰出人才有三种:
(2) Hoch qualifiziert nach Absatz 1 sind insbesondere
1. Wissenschaftler mit besonderen fachlichen Kenntnissen,
2. Lehrpersonen in herausgehobener Funktion oder wissenschaftliche Mitarbeiter in herausgehobener Funktion oder
3. Spezialisten und leitende Angestellte mit besonderer Berufserfahrung, die ein Gehalt in Höhe von mindestens der Beitragsbemessungsgrenze der allgemeinen Rentenversicherung erhalten.
引自http://www.aufenthaltstitel.de/aufenthaltsg.html#19
这东西就摆在这，肯定有postdoc拿到了，不过没人说罢了，个人认为postdoc应该更多考虑职业上的进步而不是居留这些东西。

orionsnow

原帖由 hefei01 于 2009-1-27 13:14 发表

德国这杰出人才有三种:
(2) Hoch qualifiziert nach Absatz 1 sind insbesondere
1. Wissenschaftler mit besonderen fachlichen Kenntnissen,
2. Lehrpersonen in herausgehobener Funktion oder wissenschaf ...

sorry i have a tiger at home. if i stay in acad. without 居留, i will have no dinner.

no dinner no publications,  understand?

thank you very much for providing me the information.  after my project go further, i will let you know more details about it.

hefei01

原帖由 orionsnow 于 2009-1-27 14:32 发表



sorry i have a tiger at home. if i stay in acad. without 居留, i will have no dinner.

no dinner no publications,  understand?

thank you very much for providing me the information.  after  ...

What I meant career advance is that you should care more on getting a better position in future, either in academic or industry, which means of course better pay. Residence permit doesn't help to achieve this goal.

orionsnow

原帖由 hefei01 于 2009-1-27 16:29 发表

What I meant career advance is that you should care more on getting a better position in future, either in academic or industry, which means of course better pay. Residence permit doesn't help to ac ...

$支持$
yes, sure, academic records is the first important thing.  

however

three years before, when i go phd, i though exactly as what you think now.

but now, i am elder, married, have cat, have dog, have plant to breed.

i pay tax too.  so i just ask for what i deserved.

Residence permit is not the second important thing, but human rights are.  

with that i could have right to have "arbeitlosgeld".  haha, it is just a joke.

but then life is more flaxiable.  

just ask your friends in USA.

what happens to someone, who study finance mathematic and work in invest bank,  when the bank goes down.

i have peyed the fking tax, so just jo gava meeee the fking things i should have.

so my dear Germany, would you pls, donta just though me out after using up.

orionsnow

当年在北京上大学，同学都在斗争北京户口。 我在琢磨出国。后来才发现，原来不一定是要追求科学的真理，但是一定是北京户口还不够值钱。

以前看到某留学生签名写的真好。
我穷，我丑，我德国民工户口

hefei01

OK, understand. Bottomline: you can not control what other people (say the tiger at home) think of you, but you should not look down to yourself. You are already above a level that people worring about residence permit.

orionsnow

原帖由 hefei01 于 2009-1-27 17:46 发表
OK, understand. Bottomline: you can not control what other people (say the tiger at home) think of you, but you should not look down to yourself. You are already above a level that people worring abou ...

ty for the help.$送花$



i am a big piece of pork. $汗$

stubor

原帖由 hefei01 于 2009-1-27 13:14 发表

德国这杰出人才有三种:
(2) Hoch qualifiziert nach Absatz 1 sind insbesondere
1. Wissenschaftler mit besonderen fachlichen Kenntnissen,
2. Lehrpersonen in herausgehobener Funktion oder wissenschaf ...

饿在想，这样的含糊不清的条条框框，是不是洪堡奖学金的教授们都符合了呢？那不是大家都可以拿长居了？$汗$
我知道拿了五年洪堡奖学金的教授都木拿长居，当然是不是他自己不愿意就不晓得了。

orionsnow

原帖由 stubor 于 2009-1-27 23:36 发表
你博士三年，博后再念念，交社会保险超过五年就可以长居了啊。莫非你博士不是在德国念的么？$考虑$

交社会保险超过五年 is only one condition.

umbefist contract is the second condition.

do i understand right?