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[其他] 德国法律专业难么

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发表于 2010-9-26 17:09 | 显示全部楼层
LZ啊,你别怪我说话直白。不管怎样,房子到你手才是你的目的不是吗?LZ你最好说明你自己现在和老头的身份, ...
LSY041 发表于 2010-9-26 16:49



    赞成!LZ快快献身说法吧!我们帮你集思广益!
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发表于 2010-9-26 17:13 | 显示全部楼层
你看你一来,LZ就消失了!肯定是你!你!你!
该用户名不存在 发表于 2010-9-26 17:08

是你是你就是你!
你还真会伪装咧!
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发表于 2010-9-26 17:22 | 显示全部楼层
是你是你就是你!
你还真会伪装咧!
多来米发索拉 发表于 2010-9-26 17:13



    你还是换上MJ出来回答问题吧!!!大家等着呢!乖!
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发表于 2010-9-26 17:28 | 显示全部楼层
你还是换上MJ出来回答问题吧!!!大家等着呢!乖!
该用户名不存在 发表于 2010-9-26 17:22

看 来你对大家上面给的答案已 经满意了哈,所以就不再问询了,只在这里跟我胡扯上了。

算了,给你留件衣服吧。不说你了 。
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发表于 2010-9-26 17:36 | 显示全部楼层
看 来你对大家上面给的答案已 经满意了哈,所以就不再问询了,只在这里跟我胡扯上了。

算了,给你留件 ...
多来米发索拉 发表于 2010-9-26 17:28



    算了,我不说了。

LZ,我说你还是找个专业律师吧。问我也可以,不过我懂的是版权法,不是物权法。
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发表于 2010-9-26 17:42 | 显示全部楼层
算了,我不说了。

LZ,我说你还是找个专业律师吧。问我也可以,不过我懂的是版权法,不是物权 ...
该用户名不存在 发表于 2010-9-26 17:36

你要是懂物权法哪还会上来问嘛?!
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发表于 2010-9-26 17:46 | 显示全部楼层
你要是懂物权法哪还会上来问嘛?!
多来米发索拉 发表于 2010-9-26 17:42



    版权和物权,说不定相通呢!我不过是给点参考意见了。LZ最终还是得找专业人士。

LZ什么都不说清楚,我们想帮也帮不上呀!
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发表于 2010-9-26 17:49 | 显示全部楼层
版权和物权,说不定相通呢!我不过是给点参考意见了。LZ最终还是得找专业人士。

LZ什么都不说 ...
该用户名不存在 发表于 2010-9-26 17:46

咱俩别磨牙了,饭饭吧。
我还没发表情呢,居然就发送上来了。
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发表于 2010-9-26 18:07 | 显示全部楼层
遗嘱要手写并经过公证,才具有法律效果。这个房子和遗嘱比较复杂。首先房子是婚前买的,但是现在还没有付清,增值部分是夫妻共有财产。如果房子还没有还清贷款,继承人同样也继承了债务。即使有遗嘱,遗嘱中规定的继承人也不可能得到全部的,法律规定的继承人还是将得到他们的PFLICHTTEIL。只有Adoptierte孩子具有合法的权利和义务。
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发表于 2010-9-26 18:35 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2010-9-26 18:42 | 显示全部楼层
LZ是房主的女朋友吗?怕房主写了遗嘱给自己后,他的老婆和养子来和你分财产?
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发表于 2010-9-26 18:50 | 显示全部楼层
就一句, 找律师, 谋财也得先投点资啊,老头死没呢,老头的继承人是子女和配偶(同等),还有亲属关系...,

老头赠送给你,想必跟你有很深的感情
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发表于 2010-9-27 07:46 | 显示全部楼层
他啊老婆可以得到pflichtanteil.

房子增值的一半。
加上剩余的(包括增值部分)百分之多少多少。
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发表于 2010-9-27 10:29 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2010-9-27 12:28 | 显示全部楼层
重点是,房子不是一次性付款买的,所以根本不算婚前财产。
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发表于 2010-9-27 12:31 | 显示全部楼层
refer to * SPIEGEL ONLINE International* http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,594706,00.html

Germany's Gay and Gray Get a New Home

Discrimination is a fact of life for gays and lesbians over 60, and fears about going to an old people's home are widespread. But a new batch of care services in Germany are catering specifically to aging homosexuals -- and demand will likely grow.

Hans-Paul finds reading the paper difficult, he lets television pictures wash over him and he doesn't like to leave his little flat in the Nippes neighborhood in Cologne, Germany. For decades he has been plagued by an eye illness. It won't be long before the 69-year-old will need to be helped out with his daily life. Hans-Paul, who prefers not to give his second name, expects that he will soon have to move into some sort of old people's home.

But a normal old people's home doesn't come into consideration for the former probation officer. "I would rather not live under one roof with heterosexuals," he says. Han-Paul is gay and for people from the 60+ generation, that can often pose problems.

The pensioner is afraid of discrimination: He fears he could be rejected when he is at his weakest. A survey of 2,500 homosexual pensioners in Munich showed that more than 70 percent are concerned that old people's home care workers or other residents may exclude and treat them with hostility. "I don't want to take the risk that I might have to live with former Nazis or others who would have reported me to the authorities in the 1960s," Hans-Paul says.

The Cologne resident, whose long-term partner died in 1998, is interested in "Villa Anders," which translates as Villa Different, a new home for gays and lesbians which should be completed at the end of next year. In the mixed-generational project, young people will be there to support older people in their daily life.

'Pink Godparents'

The initiative is one of many similar projects. There is Rosa Paten (Pink Godparents) in Frankfurt, a gay nursing service in Berlin and a homosexual flat share in Hamburg. In Frankfurt an old people's home is reserved for homosexuals and in Berlin the Village Care Home recently opened, providing rooms for 23 aging gays and lesbians.

Thousands share Hans-Paul's wish to live among other homosexuals. Those interested in Villa Anders meet regularly in a Cologne community center. Over coffee and cake, the men share very different life stories. But they have all experienced one thing over the past decades: extreme discrimination.

Hans, 63, sits at the table. His wish for privacy was shattered when someone saw him surfing on a gay Web site. His middle-class lifestyle fell apart: He was snubbed at the office and the golf club, people whispered and tried to avoid talking to him.

Manfred, 69, dared to openly show his love for another man and was punished with a fine by a local court in his hometown in 1965. Back then Germany's criminal code still contained Paragraph 175, which made homosexuality a punishable crime -- it was only deleted in 1994.

Almost 90 percent of gay men over 45 have been a victim of homophobic violence, studies carried out in the state of North-Rhine Westphalia have shown. And despite the long list of celebrities who have come out of the closet, the risk of discrimination is far from over, said Hans. When a Berlin monument for homosexual victims of the Nazi years was vandalized in August, "it sent a shiver down our spines," he says.

Special Care

Michael Bochow of the Social Science Center in Berlin has been working with gay senior citizens for years. The sociologist has met hundreds of fearful, vulnerable and "extremely lonely people." He says the suicide rate among homosexuals is five times as high as it is among heterosexuals. "It is a group which is, in part, deeply traumatized," says Bochow. "And for that reason they need special care."

Nedzad Ignatenko, 34 years old and himself openly homosexual, has responded to the situation by co-foundeding a nursing service for gays and lesbians in the Kreuzberg district of Berlin. He says he discovered a "gap in the market."

He says many of his customers were "extremely happy" that they didn't have to hide their sexuality, that he didn't ask about children or grandchildren, but rather asked about what gay bars they used to go to. Ignatenko also thinks that senior care will have to increasingly cater specifically to homosexuals because in the future there will be igreater numbers of pensioners with AIDS.

Critics of the new approach to care homes warn of "ghettoization." But that fear is incomprehensible to Kerstin Wecker, who leads the Village Care Home in Berlin. The men and women she and her co-workers look after see their new home as "a sort of protected area" not as a "ghetto". Recently a man moved into her center from another "normal" old people's home. But it was only after he arrived at the Village Care Home that he dared to put up a picture of his late partner.
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发表于 2010-9-27 12:40 | 显示全部楼层
“Manfred, 69, dared to openly show his love for another man and was punished with a fine by a local court in his hometown in 1965. Back then Germany's criminal code still contained Paragraph 175, which made homosexuality a punishable crime -- it was only deleted in 1994.”

所以,上世纪五六十年代,德国社会对同性恋的姿态并不像今天这么宽容。楼主提到的男性老人早已退休,有婚姻关系,却没有孩子,然后问题围绕三件事,“养子”,“赠房”,“离婚”。
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